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  • 08/10/2009 - Willenhall - Orange Orb Sighting

    Birmingham UFO Group Case Report Author: Dave Hodrien Release Date: 13/10/2009 On the evening of Thursday 8th October, Sam Davies, her husband and son were driving home in Willenhall. Sam was in the passenger seat of the car. It was approximately 8.30pm and they were driving along Lucknow Road when she suddenly noticed an orange glowing orb of light in the sky in front of them heading to the East. It looked like it was at a distance and quite large, and also appeared to be moving quite fast across the sky like an aeroplane would. It was moving on a steady and level course. At first Sam thought it was a plane on fire. She looked closely and could see it flickering like flames would, it looked a bit like burning ash was falling from it. She pointed it out to her husband and son. They pulled over into a lay-by and watched the object for about a minute through the car windows. They then decided to continue their journey, with the object still visible in the night sky. They turned onto Paul Hayes Lane and still puzzled by the light, pulled over again and watched it for 30 seconds. Suddenly the object seemed to vanish without trace. At first they thought it must have gone into a cloud, but then they realised the sky was relatively free of cloud. They did not see the object after this point so continued their drive home. Map showing stretch of road which sighting occurred on and route witnesses took: 📷 The object seen by Sam and her family has all the characteristics of a Chinese lantern. It’s appearance of a flickering orange orb of light, looking like it was on fire, the fact that it did not perform any unusual manoeuvres but moved steadily on a level course, and the sudden disappearance of the object all lead me to believe it was probably a solitary lantern that had been launched by somebody. These do appear to suddenly vanish when they burn out, and the movement pattern could easily have been the object drifting in the wind. As it was against a night sky with no point of reference, it would have been hard to precisely judge how far away the object was, and therefore what speed it was really moving at. Unless further evidence becomes available to suggest otherwise, this seems the most likely explanation of what was seen. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

  • 16/10/2009 - Solihull - White & Red Rotating Lights & Silver Disc Sighting

    Birmingham UFO Group Case Report Author: Dave Hodrien Release Date: 16/10/2009 During the daytime of Friday 16th October 2009, my six year old step-daughter had a sighting of some unusual objects in the sky over her school in Solihull. In the evening she told me all about what she had seen. She was out in the playground at lunch time at 1pm. It was quite a clear day, with patchy cloud and blue sky. She decided to start skipping. After a short while she stopped and happened to glance into the sky. She saw a white stationary light, and three red lights below in a line which were continuously rotating. Her attention was drawn to the lights for a short while. After about 10 seconds she then says she saw what she described as a “silver-coloured frisbee” emerge from the position of the lights. It moved around the sky above the playground on a circular path, and then apparently flew away over where the gate to the playground was. She was a bit scared that aliens were going to come and take her, so she started skipping again to take her mind off what she had just seen. When she looked back a short while later the lights were no longer visible. Soon afterwards she told her friend about what she had seen. In the evening she related the story to me, and soon afterwards drew the below picture, which shows the playground and herself, with the objects in the sky above: 📷 I have no doubt that my step-daughter saw something. She knows about the investigative work that I do but she was completely open about the sighting and I do not believe she was making it up. She answered many questions on it and a few days later when I asked her again, her story had not altered at all. However it is of course possible that she mistook normal aircraft for something more unusual, she is after all only six. The lights she saw were white and red; these colours of course are the same colours as normal civilian aircraft lights. But it was the middle of the day, so surely if it was a plane she would have seen its shape as well as just the lights? She has been taught how to identify aircraft, even at night-time. Also the three red lights were rotating, which of course on a normal aircraft they would not do. There is also the silver disc-shaped object which she saw emerge from the lights and move independently of them around the sky. These aspects are very interesting and point towards the sighting being of something unusual, rather than simply mistaken identity. If it wasn’t aircraft, perhaps it could have been something else such as balloons or a model of some kind, or maybe a mix of a number of things. We will probably never know for sure either way, so for now it remains an interesting and unexplained sighting. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

  • 16/10/2009 - Milton Keynes - Orange Orbs Sighting

    Birmingham UFO Group Case Report Author: Dave Hodrien Release Date: 16/10/2009 On the evening of Friday 16th October 2009, witnesses Lesley and her daughter Becky would see some unusual lights in the sky from their home near in the Crown Hill housing estate, Milton Keynes. It was 8.30pm and Lesley was watching TV in the living room. Her daughter was upstairs and happened to glance out of the bedroom window. It was a clear and calm evening, with the stars visible but the moon out of sight. To the South she noticed a number of bright orange orbs of light moving in a Northern direction. They appeared to be quite large in size, low in the sky, and seemed to be moving about the same speed as a slow moving aircraft. Map showing location of sighting: 📷 Becky called Lesley who then came to the window and also saw the lights. There were between six and eight of them and they were all moving in the same direction. They were constantly bright with no flickering visible. At first they appeared to be in a line but as they watched they started to spread out a bit. The object at the tail end appeared to be slower and lower in the sky than the other objects. It was also a deeper reddish colour than the others. Lesley opened the bedroom window and listened but could hear no noise coming from them. They continued to watch the lights for about two minutes. Over this time they gradually spread out until they formed more of a horse-shoe like shape. The objects appeared to move to the North until they went out of sight. Both the witnesses were mystified as to what they had seen and had never seen anything like it before. This sighting shows all the characteristics of Chinese lanterns, and it is these which I think are more than likely responsible for what was experienced. Lesley has watched some videos of lanterns on the net, and says that the lights they saw appeared bigger and brighter. However lanterns do often appear extremely bright and larger in size than they are in reality. They may not always flicker and can sometimes appear constantly bright. Against the night sky it can be very hard to judge exactly how far away they are and how fast they are moving. The lights did not display any manoeuvres that would point towards them being under intelligent control. The fact that they began in a line before starting to move apart, and all moved in the same direction, suggests that they were all being launched from the same point and then drifting in an air current. Lesley said it was a calm evening with no wind, but at higher altitude there may well have been. The light at the rear that was more reddish in colour may well have been a lantern which did not light as well as the others, this would also explain why it appeared to be lower than the other lights and not moving as fast. The more heated the air inside the lantern becomes, the faster it will rise into the sky. It is also possible that the other lights at a higher altitude were caught in a stronger air current than the final one. Therefore, due to the numerous aspects described, I feel that this sighting was probably of a number of Chinese lanterns that were being launched from an unknown location near to the witnesses. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

  • 04/04/2009 to 26/09/2009 - Sedgley - Segmented Wedge UFO & Flying Triangle Sightings

    Birmingham UFO Group Case Report Author: Dave Hodrien Release Date: 18/10/2009 Introduction With many UFO sightings, the object or objects seen are indiscriminate lights, or seen at such a distance that no clear picture can be made of them. However occasionally a sighting occurs where a great amount of detail can be made out. It is this type of sighting which Pete Sutton was lucky enough to witness in April 2009. Little did he know as he set out to walk the dog that he would see something which would change his views on UFOs for ever – what can only be described as two extremely unusual flying craft! Soon afterwards we would also discover that a possible sighting of one of these craft had also taken place two days before Pete's sighting. But this would not be the end of his UFO encounters. Since April, Pete has had a number of other sightings, of both the same craft and other unexplained objects. This report will cover each incident in seperate sections. UFO witness Peter Sutton: 📷 4th APRIL 2009 UFO SIGHTING Pete lives in the village of Sedgley to the north of Birmingham. Late evening on the 4th April 2009 he decided to take his pet dog Jake out for a walk to the pub which lies on the far side of Sedgley Hall Park. It was around 10.35pm when he set out. The moon was clearly visible in the night sky, and the weather was very clear and still. There was nobody else around so it was very peaceful. The entrance to the park lies just around the corner from Padarn Close where Peter lives. As he walked along the path he glanced to his right at the moon above the tree tops. It is then that he noticed an orange glowing light to the right of it, hovering in the sky. He assumed at the time that it must be a police helicopter or the air ambulance which regularly can be seen flying between RAF Cosford and Birmingham Accident Hospital. After a few seconds he lost sight of it behind the trees. Photograph in direction where Pete saw the orange light: 📷 Continuing along the path he entered the park and began heading up the gentle slope. It was quite dark with the moon giving the only light. The park is split into two grass fields. As he was half way along the upper field of the park, he happened to glance around to take a look at the night sky. Due to the height of the park it is possible to see towards the west between the trees. Satellite map of Sedgley Hall Park showing location where sighting took place: 📷 It is then that he noticed two brightly glowing large orange lights in the sky to the North West West. The lights were slowly coming towards him. He estimated they were travelling at around 35mph and around 200 feet in the sky, climbing slightly. Peter is a pilot so is adept at determining relative distance, height, speed and size of objects. At a distance the lights looked like they were next to each other. Photograph at sighting location in direction where UFOs came from: 📷 He continued to stare at the objects. As they approached he realised they were like nothing he had ever seen before. They were now about 300 feet above ground level. He could see now that one object was about 300 metres behind the other and to one side. They were illuminated by the moonlight and looked metallic medium grey in colour. He describes them as being wedge-shaped with a curved top which was split into separate segments akin to a barrel. All the corners and edges on them were rounded. He estimated they were around 30-40 feet long by 15-25 feet wide. He immediately believed them to be craft, more than likely extraterrestrial in origin, as they were so unlike anything he had seen before. They were approaching slightly to the south of his position, and from the edges that he could see, vivid orange and red coloured light was being emitted. This light was in alternating red and orange squares and appeared to be flowing out of the side of the objects continuously and falling down for quite a distance before fading. He believes this was a form of waste energy being dismissed. They had a wide orange light running along the front of them. He feels that the reason for this could have been to create negative energy to slow down the craft. They were completely silent even when relatively close to his position. Witness drawing of one of the objects, showing light being emitted: 📷 Sketch showing object shape from a side on angle: 📷 Pete was completely astounded by what he was witnessing but felt no fear. He held his arms apart in awe as the objects flew close by past his position. The dog did not appear bothered at all by the craft. As they past they began to change direction until they were heading in a North Easterly direction. He kept watching them above the trees and could now make out the backs of the craft which were “cut off” and flat. Each had a row of four red lights on the back. Suddenly the light being emitted from the side of the object faded and then both dramatically increased in acceleration. Peter estimates they must have accelerated to hundreds of miles an hour. Within seconds they had completely vanished from sight. Looking back in the direction which he had seen the objects come from, he saw a large fireworks display going on in the distance. He assumed it was taking place out near Lloyd Hall Farm a couple of miles to the NWW. It was so far from him that he could not hear the explosions, he could just see the show. Satellite map showing estimated area of fireworks display, location of witness and path the UFOs took: 📷 About 10 seconds later he heard the distant noise of jet afterburners being fired. Staring to the north he could make out the red flashing navigation lights of at least two military jets. He estimates they were about 10 miles North East of Wolverhampton. These lights were moving towards the direction the objects had been seen to go in. Photograph at sighting location in direction UFOs flew away: 📷 Pete was absolutely amazed at what he had just witnessed. He felt certain that he craft were extraterrestrial and that the military had known about their presence and attempted to intercept them. He excitedly walked home and told his wife all about what he had seen. The middle of the following day, Pete decided to ring West Midlands News. They informed him that there had been a number of other sightings which had been reported, and that someone from Sutton Coldfield also had a photograph. He also contacted the Express & Star newspaper. Pete checked the news on television and radio for the next couple of days but there was nothing about any UFOs. He rang West Midlands News back on Tuesday afternoon to enquire as to what had happened. They informed him that all reports and information they had received on the UFOs had been erased from their computer. They could not understand this at all and did not know who to blame. Sedgley and the surrounding area is in the restricted flight area for Birmingham Airport. So Peter decided he would next ring Birmingham Approach Flight Control Tower to enquire about the UFOs. He got through to a young man. Below is the transcript of the call: P: I want to talk to someone about the inurnment in your restricted area in your North Western sector on Saturday evening. M: It wasn’t you was it? It caused loads of trouble here. P: Definitely not. M: If you want to speak to my manager ring back in 30 minutes. Pete rang back after half an hour and got on the phone to the manager. He said the same thing to him but the manager completely denied that anything had taken place. After driving out to meet Pete to discuss his sighting, I too decided to contact air traffic control at Birmingham Airport. The person I spoke with informed me that there had been no incursions into their air space on the evening of 4th April. I also contacted West Midlads News to see if I could obtain any details on the other reported sightings which had been mentioned. Unfortunately as Peter did not get a name when he rang up, they could not locate the same individual for me. On Friday 17th April, Pete’s sighting appeared in the Express & Star newspaper, alongside another sighting which took place at West Midlands Safari Park. This other sighting does not appear related to what Peter saw. Express & Star Newspaper Article Saucer in skies to join pasties Friday, April 17, 2009 Builders working at West Midlands Safari Park were shocked to see a flying saucer soaring above them. Duane Woodhouse says he and three workmates saw a UFO passing overhead at 7.30am yesterday. The 25-year-old, of Willenhall Road, Wolverhampton said: "There were four of us on the building site when we saw this thing in the sky. It was like a flying saucer, a disc shape. We were all totally shocked, we didn't know what it was. I've never seen anything like it before." A spokesman for Birmingham International Airport said they were not aware of any reported sightings and did not have any aircraft flying over the park near Bewdley at that time. On April 4, two UFOs shaped like Cornish pasties were spotted flying over Sedgley. Peter Sutton saw the bright orange objects moving in the sky near his home in Padarn Close. The Royal Mail driver says he is convinced they "were not of this earth". They were travelling from the direction of Wombourne and he watched them make their way towards Wolverhampton at 10.35pm. The 59-year-old said he could clearly see the orange surfaces of the pastie-shaped objects. Pete also paid for an advert and sent in a letter to the paper. Both appealed for other UFO witnesses from the local area to come forward. Two previous witnesses did contact BUFOG as a direct result of reading Pete's letter (See later). MOD Freedom Of Information Request Shortly after speaking to Pete about his sighting, I sent the following request to Freedom Of Information at the Ministry Of Defense: "I would like to request any information you have on military jet operations or training exercises (To include the reason for these operations or exercises) which took place on Saturday 4th April 2009 around 10.45pm in the airspace North East of Wolverhampton / North of Sedgley, Birmingham. I have heard from a contact that it is unusual for military jets to be flown in this area at this time of night due to the noise levels." I received a reply on 1st June 2009 stating the following: "From available records held at Headquarters Air Command for Saturday 4 April 2009, I have been unable to trace records of any RAF jet operations around 10:45pm in the airspace North East of Wolverhampton/North of Sedgley, Birmingham. For completeness I have approached the Royal Navy, who informed me that none of their jet aircraft were in the area you asked about at the time you mentioned. I have also confirmed that the Army do not have any jet aircraft. It is possible that there were civilian aircraft movements around 10.45pm on 4 April in the areas you mentioned. Airspace policy for civilian aircraft is regulated by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA)." As you can see from this reply, the MOD have stated that there were no military jets in the area at the time of Pete's sighting. Does this mean that he mistook one or more civilian aircraft for military jets? Or is it yet more evidence that a cover up regarding this incident has taken place? Pete is adamant that he heard afterburners being fired, which would not have occured if the aircraft were civilian. A Previous Sighting? A sighting of a UFO which I believe was possibly the same as what Pete saw occurred in Sedgley two days prior to his sighting. It was 5.40pm on Thursday 2nd April 2009. The two witnesses, Steve and Hayley, were driving to the shopsthrough Upper Gornal towards Sedgley. It was a clear sunny day with a bit of cloud cover. Hayley first spotted the object in the distance ahead of them off to their left. It was metallic grey in colour, and had an elongated shape with curved edges. From their position there appeared to be no lights, wings or markings on the object. It was stationary and hovering in the sky. Due to the distance they cannot say whether or not the object was silent. Hayley exclaimed “What’s that up there? What is it?” and Steve who was driving then also sighted the object. About ten seconds later it suddenly accelerated and rapidly moved across the sky to the right, descending slightly until it disappeared behind a row of houses. The witnesses said this was much too fast to be a normal aircraft or something drifting in the wind. Witness drawing of the UFO and its path on top of a photograph of the sighting location: 📷 They continued driving, and as they passed the houses, Hayley caught sight of it between them. The object had stopped moving and was once again hovering still in the sky. Unfortunately they were in traffic so could not stop the car and once again lost sight of the object. Hayley did try to look for it again half an hour later on their return journey but could not see it anywhere. As you can see this sighting has numerous similarities with what Pete Sutton witnessed. The colour and smooth curved shape of the object both fit with his description. Hayley and Steve did not see any lights on the object, however it was daylight so maybe the lights were switched off, or were not visible due to the sunlight. The sudden controlled acceleration of the object matches what Pete witnessed towards the end of his sighting. Hayley and Steve did not see any flowing light/energy coming from the object, however Pete himself mentioned that before the two craft he saw picked up speed and flew away this flowing light/energy actually stopped, it was only when they were travelling slower that it was visible. Due to the movement pattern observed it is very unlikely to have been an airship, balloon or other inflatable. It moved from a stationary position extremely fast and then became completely stationary again. This suggests it was under intelligent control. Its appearance confirms that it was not a conventional aircraft or helicopter. The fact that this object was seen in the same local area and only two days prior to Pete’s sighting suggests that this was an initial sighting of either the same or a similar craft, and that they were present in the area for a number of days (or at least returned to the area). Other Newspaper Article Express & Star, 10th September 2009: 📷 Although the objects seen in this sighting moved towards Sedgley, I do not believe they are the same craft that Pete saw. From the limited information available I believe the objects could well have been Chinese lanterns. These appear as orange orbs of light, are often launched simultaneously and can move around randomly in the sky depending on whether they are caught in gusts of wind or not. 31ST MAY 2009 UFO SIGHTING Late evening on Sunday 31st May, Pete decided to walk to Sedgley for a drink at his local pub. It was a clear and dry night and the stars were out. He decided to walk through Sedgley Hall Park, along the public footpath amd past the location where he had seen the two unusual craft back in April. On many evenings since that incredible night he had come to the park to skywatch, in the hope of having another sighting. Towards the top of the park is a grass-covered track which leads to the village. He reached this and decided to stop and stare at the sky for a number of minutes. Overhead view of park showing location of grass track: 📷 Suddenly he noticed an object coming in from the West and heading in an Easterly direction. It looked different to the craft he had seen in April. It looked like a black delta-shaped object which blocked out the stars. As it got closer to his position he could see it was shaped like an elongated triangle. The back of the object was curved inwards like a half-moon. Despite looking different in appearance to the craft back in April, it again had reddish-orange energy falling out of the left side of it. Pete estimates the object was 80-100 foot wide. It was flying at low altitude, around 500 feet high. It was moving at roughly 50mph. He tried taking a photograph of it on his mobile phone but sadly due to the darkness only got a red glow, which he believed was the energy coming from it. As he watched, the object turned and altered its course to head in a Southerly direction. When it did this he could no longer see the energy coming from it. Either the energy had stopped falling from the object or it could not be seen due to the angle he was now viewing it at. As it continued on it’s course away from his position, Pete could now see a row of five white strobe lights on the rear of the object. These flashed roughly every few seconds, in much the same way that wingtip lights on an aeroplane strobe on and off. He continued to watch until it flew out of sight behind the lie of the land. Pete was astounded that he had experienced another UFO sighting, and believes that this could possibly have been a sighting of the infamous “Dudley Dorrito” – a triangular shaped craft seen numerous times in the area. However the fact that it had similar electrical energy pouring from it tends to suggest it was in some way related to his previous sighting in April. At least to my knowledge, none of the other sightings of the "Dudley Dorrito" have described this falling energy. As you will find out later in this report, this would not be the last time he would see this particular object, which Pete again believes was certainly an extraterrestrial craft. 31ST AUGUST 2009 UFO SIGHTING Pete and his wife own some horses that they keep in some local stables, half a mile to the West of their home in Sedgley. The stables are next to some open fields. About 5pm on 31st August 2009 (which was a bank holiday) they decided to go and check up on the horses. They both walked out to the stables. When they reached them, they met up with the owner of the stables. While his wife chatted with the stables owner under a tree, Pete stood out in the open next to the stables, looking up at the sky and watching a flock of sparrows. It was a nice evening, dry with patchy cloud, through which he could see blue sky. As he watched the birds flying through the air, an unusual object caught his attention. He saw what looked like a black disc-shaped object flying at very high altitude. He estimates the object was at least 20000 feet high and was within a mile of his position. It was moving in a South-Westerly direction on a straight flight path. If it was at the altitude it appeared to be, Pete estimates that it was moving over 600 mph, and was at least the size of an airliner. The object appeared to be tipping back and forth on it’s axis, diagonally one way then diagonally the other way roughly every couple of seconds. When it tipped one direction it appeared to almost go invisible, Pete believes because of the angle he was looking at it. This made the object appear to continuously vanish then reappear. He believes it was possibly doing this to avoid being detected on radar. It was moving at a fast speed across the sky. He watched it for 10 seconds before calling his wife so she could see it too. However by the time she had walked over to him, the object had disappeared into the distance. This is an interesting and unusual sighting. Pete is very good at judging distances and relative sizes due to his piloting skills. Therefore we must assume that the object really was very high up, large in size and moving at a very fast speed. This means it is unlikely to have been debris or an inflatable object drifting in the wind. Pete says the tipping motion of the object looked very controlled, and feels certain it was doing this on purpose. It is unlikely the object was space debris re-entering the atmosphere as this would descend rather than fly on a horizontal course, and would also glow as it burnt up. These facts means that the object will currently remain unidentified, but has the possibility of being an unusual craft of some kind. 26TH SEPTEMBER 2009 UFO SIGHTINGS On this particular evening, Pete would have three sightings of craft/objects he had seen before on previous occassions, as well as a fourth unidentified sighting! The weather was again clear and dry, so Pete thought it would be an ideal evening to go for a skywatch at Sedgley Hall Park. At 9pm he decided to drive up to the top of the park, and parked his car on the grass track. He took two of his pet dogs with him and let them run around as he stood by the car and watched for activity in the sky. He also had with him a two-way radio, which he used to send out a communication in the hope that any ET craft in the area would hear it and approach his position. At approximately 9.15pm he saw one of the same objects he had seen back in April coming in from the West. It was between 1000-1500 feet high and moving at at least 50 mph. When he first spotted it, it was at least a mile from his position. Again he could see the orange and red “waste energy” falling from the left side of the object. The energy appeared to be drifting like material would, and for the first time Pete got the impression that perhaps it was running down material of some kind rather than free falling from the craft. The object followed the same course as his previous sightings – first heading to the East then shifting its course and flying out of sight to the South. Pete tried taking a photograph of the craft on his phone but it was too dark and nothing came out. He watched the craft for about one and a half minutes before it was lost from view. Half an hour later, he watched another object of the same appearance approach, again moving on the same course. Pete wonders if it was the same craft and it had circled around. This certainly seems a good possibility due to the fact the identical path it flew on. Again like before it flew away to the South out of sight, and did not appear to communicate with him in any way. At about 10pm Pete noticed a very bright white light coming from the South West at a very high altitude. He wondered if it was a normal aircraft. He continued to watch it for a couple of minutes as it got much closer to his position. Suddenly the light went out, and he could see absolutely nothing where it had been. If it was a normal aircraft there would have been some other lights still visible but whatever it was had either completely vanished or had no other lights on it and was too dark to see against the sky. Soon after the sighting of the white light, Pete decided to drive the car back to his house, and then head out again on foot through the park on his way to Sedgley for a drink. As he walked back through the lower part of the park and reached a bend in the footpath, he noticed something in the sky, flying away from his position towards the East. He immediately recognised it as the delta-shaped craft he had seen back in May. It had the familiar row of five white strobe lights on its rear. It was at a low altitude, no more than 500 feet. It remained visible for about 30 seconds, during which it gradually turned towards the South, before it was lost from sight. Overhead view of park showing approximate location of witness: 📷 Pete wonders if ths craft was investigating him personally, and if this sighting, and the earlier ones in the evening, had anything to do with the radio message he had broadcast. Conclusion Pete's sightings are absolutely stunning, and after speaking with him numerous times I am convinced that he is not making up these incidents. Pete owns his own light aircraft and is a pilot, so he is certainly experienced at identifying conventional aircraft of different types. The description of the craft he has seen obviously differ wildly from any form of known aircraft, military or otherwise. Peter is not trying to make any money out of his stories, he just feels it is important that people know about them. He comes across as a very level-headed and honest individual. The amount of follow up work that he did to try and find out whether anyone else saw the craft back in April is another sign that he is telling the truth. Some of the objects Pete has seen clearly appear to be unknown craft of some kind. Their appearance, size and speed that they accelerated to clearly means that they were not radio controlled objects, balloons or any conventional aircraft. I am certain that the witness did not imagine the objects and that they do not have any natural or atmospheric explanation. It seems extremely unlikely that they were top secret military craft in development – why would they fly them at such low altitude over a populated area? As far as I am aware there have been no other documented cases reporting the type of craft that Pete saw initially (Although I’m sure there are some which have some similar aspects). So what are we dealing with here? Is this perhaps a brand new craft type that has not been witnessed before? Could the pilots be of a new species that have never been encountered? Why do the objects seem to be repeatedly visiting the same area? Pete believes that the craft were flying at such a low altitude to attempt to hide from radar. He also thinks that the reason they were in the area back in April was that they were drawn to or observing the fireworks display, as this was in the direction they came from. There is evidence that there has been an attempt to cover up aspects of the initial incident. When Pete first contacted air traffic control the individual he spoke to certainly reacted like they had detected some unexplained activity in the area. However when he called back the manager 30 minutes later, he denied that anything had taken place and said that nothing had shown up on radar. This time between the two calls would have given ample time to come up with a cover story. Also were the reports that West Midlands News had taken on UFO sightings in the area removed from their computer on purpose to prevent the release of certain information? It could of course have just been an accident, but it is still an interesting aspect of the case. It looks like there was military involvement and that they were aware of the objects. Pete says that although military jets are seen in the area, they usually fly during the day and would never fire their afterburners during night time hours as they are extremely loud. The jets that he saw to the north of his position flew off in the direction that the UFOs headed in. Could they have been attempting to intercept them? There are of course outstanding questions regarding these incidents, questions which may one day be answered. What I can say is that these are some of the most impressive sightings I have looked into so far, and I hope that if they continue, Pete will be able to get some decent photographic or video evidence, as at the moment we only really have his word to go on. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

  • 04/10/2009 - Coventry - Orange Orbs Sighting

    Birmingham UFO Group Case Report Author: Dave Hodrien Release Date: 18/10/2009 This sighting took place at 12.30am on Saturday 4th October 2009. Chris Vince was having a cigarette at the back door of his house on Humber Avenue, Coventry. He was looking into the night sky towards the city centre. It was a dry and still night, with light cloud cover. The stars and moon were both visible. Suddenly he noticed a bright orange orb of light moving across the sky on a level course in a Westerly direction. It was hard to judge the size, distance and height of the light, but he estimates it was at least a mile away from his position. It looked quite large, possibly due to the brightness of the light coming from it. This light was constant and did not change in brightness at all. As he watched he then saw a second similar object following along behind the first on the same course. Map showing location of Humber Avenue: 📷 He called his wife who came to the back door and also saw the lights. She was amazed and asked what the objects were, but Chris had no idea and had never seen anything like them before. It was a quiet night and they could hear no sound coming from the objects. They watched them moving across the sky, visible above the rooftops of nearby houses. A third light appeared, again following the same course. At this moment Chris decided to run upstairs to get his mobile phone to try and take a photograph. From the bedroom window he could now see four lights, all travelling after one another. Chris ran back outside and both him and his wife walked down the garden to continue watching the lights. He tried taking a photograph but it was too dark and didn’t come out. They continued to watch until they all moved out of sight behind the buildings. They were both mystified by what they had seen and soon afterwards Chris decided to contact BUFOG about the sighting. From the description and movement pattern of the objects, I believe that they were probably a number of Chinese lanterns drifting in the wind. These appear as bright orange glowing orbs at a distance. Although they sometimes are seen to flicker, they also sometimes appear constantly bright. Chris said the weather conditions were still, however there may well have been a breeze at the altitude the lights were seen at. The fact that they all moved in the same direction with no sign that they were under intelligent control could well mean they were drifting rather than being propelled. It was hard for the witnesses to judge the distance and therefore size and speed of the objects, so there are no indications that the objects may have been something other than lanterns. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

  • 24/10/2009 - Northampton - Orange Orbs Sighting

    Birmingham UFO Group Case Report Author: Dave Hodrien Last Updated: 28/10/2009 On the evening of Saturday 24th October, witness Scott Norville had a sighting of two glowing orange UFOs. It was about 8pm and Scott was driving home from Northampton centre. By this time of evening the roads were relatively quiet, though there were a few other cars around. It was an overcast night with full cloud cover, so the stars were not visible at all. As Scott drove along London Road, he suddenly noticed an orange light in the sky about half a mile from his position to the South West West. He estimated it was about 3000 feet high. He watched the light, expecting it to flash and indicate to him that it was an aircraft or helicopter. He thought to himself that perhaps it was the "Sywell Blades" aerobatic team on their way back to Sywell Aerodrome. However the light appeared to be coming from an individual object and was constantly bright. It looked to be heading in his direction slowly, at about 10 mph. After 20 seconds he decided to pull over and get out to take a better look at the object. The object continued to head on a straight path towards his position. As it flew overhead, it appeared to be circular in shape and quite large, he estimates it was 20-25 metres across. He also noted that it was completely silent. It continued onward on the same course until it was lost behind some trees. In total he had watched the object for about 3 minutes. Looking back in the direction it had come from, Scott then saw a second object which looked exactly the same. Again it flew on the same path as the first object and passed over his position. Map showing route of Scott's car, and position and direction of the objects: 📷 Perspective map showing path of the objects over witness and car: 📷 Once the second object had been lost from sight, he got back in his car and continued his journey home. A short while later, he checked the internet and found that there have been a number of similar sightings in the area over recent months. Scott is interested in aviation. He has been to many air shows and is a member of the Vulcan to the sky club. He is used to seeing aircraft in the sky, but these objects were like nothing he had ever seen before. He says that they looked too large to be Chinese lanterns, and is aware that some sightings of orange lights do turn out to be these. Other than the apparent size of the objects, they do share many characteristics with lanterns. They were not flickering but sometimes lanterns can appear constantly bright. They moved on the same flight path at a slow speed, were not at a particularly high altitude, and did not perform any manoeuvres which would suggest they were under intelligent control, so may well have been drifting in the direction of the wind. It is possible that the objects appeared bigger than they actually were. It is sometimes hard to judge the size against the night sky as there is no point of reference. Also the brightness of the glow can sometimes make lanterns look a lot larger. Could the witness have mistaken two Chinese lanterns for something much more unusual? It is hard to say for sure, but at this point I feel this is probably what took place. In recent years lanterns have become much more popular and are readily available, and are no doubt responsible for many of the orange orb sightings reported to both BUFOG and other groups or websites. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

  • 12/11/2007 - Giza, Egypt - Metallic UFOs Photograph

    Birmingham UFO Group Case Report Author: Dave Hodrien Release Date: 28/10/2009 As a UFO group, occasionally we of course get sent photographs of unusual objects in the sky. While some of these are undoubtedly mistaken identity and nothing more than aircraft, birds or insects, sometimes the photos appear to show something much more unusual. This report is about one such photograph, which was sent to me on 25th October 2009. The photographer, Rob Taylor, wanted my opinion on what he had managed to capture in a photograph taken while visiting the Pyramids in Giza, Egypt. Of course this location has, in many peoples eyes, already got connections with the subject of ufology, making this photograph even more interesting. I asked Rob many questions about the photograph to obtain as much detail as possible about when and how it was taken. The Photograph In November 2007 Rob and his wife Emma went on holiday to Egypt. Of course no holiday to Egypt would be complete without a visit to the Pyramids of Giza, and on the 12th November, this is precisely what they did. It was a very hot day, with light hazy cloud covering the sky. Accompanying Rob and Emma was a local guide and historian named Ibrahim. Rob had his Sony Mavica Disc camera with him, and took a number of photographs of the site. It was 1pm and he decided to take a photograph of the Sphinx, with Khufu pyramid in the background. He saw nothing out of the ordinary when he took the photograph, and continued to take other photographs throughout the afternoon. Satellite photograph showing approximate position that Rob took the photograph from: 📷 When they returned home, Rob and Emma scanned in the photographs and took a look through them. They were amazed to see what appeared to be one/two saucer-shaped objects in the sky to the left of the pyramid. Original photograph with UFOs visible on the left: 📷 None of the other photographs contained anything out of the ordinary. Rob zoomed in on the objects and studied the photograph in depth. He works with CCTV and cameras, and feels certain that the objects are not birds or insects. There were no planes or other aircraft in the area while they were there, and Rob says if there were they would have been easily noticeable against the hazy sky. He believes that the objects on the photograph may well be craft of extraterrestrial origin. Photographic Analysis There are three unusual objects/anomalies present in the middle left of the photograph. Firstly there appear to be two small “classic” saucer-shaped objects. There is also a very faint third object to their right which is hard to make out. The objects of interest: 📷 First let us examine the saucer-shaped objects. Zoomed and edge find images of upper object: 📷 📷 Zoomed and edge find images of lower object: 📷 📷 As you can see the two objects appear to be of similar shape. The upper object certainly appears to be a solid object of some kind which is reflecting the light of the sun, with the shadow visible along its underside. The lower object is of a similar shape, but appears less solid and white in colour. It also appears not quite symmetrical when viewed up close. Could it be some sort of reflection of the upper object in the camera lens? Or is it a separate object in its own right which is reflecting the light differently, or which is perhaps not fully in our visible spectrum/dimension? Perhaps it has some sort of trail behind it which is the reason why it does not look fully symmetrical. I do not believe it is simply a small cloud, as it looks much too defined and bright against the rest of the sky. The objects appear to be at a distance from the camera and behind the pyramid but this may just be an optical illusion. The objects do not appear to be normal aircraft. Nor do they appear to be birds or insects passing the camera, however this is something which cannot fully be ruled out at present. The third object/anomaly is very faint and smaller (more distant?) than the two saucer-shaped objects, and can be seen to the right of them. As it is so faint it is hard to judge its actual form. It could very well be a third similar object at a distance, and may even be partially hidden by the hazy cloud visible in the sky. Zoomed and edge find images of third object: 📷 📷 I feel that this photograph certainly warrants further analysis and is quite an interesting image. If I manage to get more thorough analysis done on the photograph, the results will be added to this report. For now it remains an intriguing photo that perhaps shows one or more genuine extraterrestrial or extradimensional craft. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

  • 31/10/2009 - Quinton - Red Light UFO Sighting (BUFOG Founder)

    Birmingham UFO Group Case Report Author: Craig Lowe Release Date: 31/10/2009 Red light over my house at 19.50pm 31/10/09 Probably a latern, but light did seem extremely high and traveled from South horizon directly over my house heading north very quickly. Craig Lowe - BUFOG. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

  • 01/11/2009 - Acocks Green - Orange Orb Sighting

    Birmingham UFO Group Case Report Author: Dave Hodrien Release Date: 05/11/2009 Early morning on 1st November at 12.45am witness Jason B. had a sighting of an unusual light in the sky. He was standing out in his back garden of his house on Liddon Grove, Acocks Green, having a cigarette. There was heavy cloud cover but it was a relatively still and dry night. He happened to glance up into the sky, and a light caught his eye. He saw what looked like a round reddish-orange coloured glowing object. He estimates it was at least the size of a helicopter but could not be certain due to the distance from him, which he estimated at several miles. The object was in the direction of Birmingham Airport and was moving at a slow speed towards his location. Map showing location of Liddon Grove: 📷 Jason was intrigued by the object and stood and watched it. It first moved from side to side, and then moved in a horseshoe-type shape in an arc towards his position. At first he thought it must be a police helicopter, but as it got closer he realised there was no sound coming from it. After about 30 seconds the object vanished, Jason believes it was probably lost behind cloud. He did not see the object again after this point so went back inside. I too believe that both myself and some of my friends saw either the same or a very similar object. I was holding a Halloween party and we were out in the back garden of my house in Solihull. I looked up into the sky and saw a glowing orange orb of light that appeared to be occasionally flickering. It was moving at a slow speed in the direction of Acocks Green/Olton, and appeared to be at quite low altitude, possibly 200 feet. I pointed it out to my friends and we watched it for several seconds before it vanished behind nearby housing. I cannot be absolutely certain of the time when we saw the object, but I think it was early morning, so it seems probable that it was the same one that was seen by Jason. Map showing estimated path of the object I witnessed and locations of both mine and Jason’s sighting: 📷 I immediately recognised the object as a Chinese lantern, and this is what I believe both myself and Jason saw. The appearance and movement of the object certainly fits this explanation. Jason believes that the object was too large to be a lantern, however it is often hard to tell the real size and distance of objects in the sky, especially after dark. Lanterns also glow very brightly which again can make them seem larger than they actually are. They can stay lit for up to 45 minutes so this would be easily enough time for it to drift from my location to where Jason was situated. I am quite convinced that what I saw was a lantern, but obviously cannot be certain that Jason saw the same object, or that what he saw was not something more unusual. However this seems like the most probable explanation for both the sightings. You can see on the map above that the lantern I witnessed was heading roughly in the direction of Liddon Grove, and of course the wind direction could easily have changed. Over recent months we have received many sightings which can probably be attributed to Chinese lanterns. They seem to be particularly popular at the moment, possibly due to Bonfire Night and Christmas being just round the corner. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

  • 08/11/2009 - Rhos On Sea - Orange Orbs Sighting

    Birmingham UFO Group Case Report Author: Dave Hodrien Release Date: 12/11/2009 On the evening of 8th November 2009 witness Pete Fitter, and his wife and son saw some unexplained lights in the skies over Rhos On Sea, Colwyn Bay, North Wales. It was 7.15pm when they spotted the lights to the North of their position. There were three orange glowing lights in a triangular shape. It was a partially cloudy evening with gaps of clear sky with stars visible. The lights were at quite high altitude, and appeared bigger than the surrounding stars. The lights were moving towards the West at a slow speed. The only sound they could hear was that of another conventional aircraft also in the vicinity. They could make out the flashing lights of this plane. Pete checked the objects through his binoculars and was surprised that they did not seem to change size when he looked at them through these. Aerial photographic map of Rhos On Sea (Precice sighting location unknown): 📷 The witnesses continued to watch the lights. They then began moving at a faster speed, and after watching them for about 30 seconds they suddenly vanished without trace. Currently BUFOG has no further details on this sighting as Pete did not leave us his contact details, but if he gets back in touch this report may well be updated. From what he has already revealed, there is the possibility that the lights may well have been three Chinese lanterns drifting in a triangular pattern. However there is also the possibility that they were something else entirely, either three objects or all part of one large object. Pete does not believe they were lanterns as he feels that this would have been obvious when he looked at them through his binoculars. But they may have been too far away to see clearly even under magnification. It is unknown how fast the lights appeared to accelerate, whether they retained their position to each other and whether they all vanished at exactly the same moment. All of these factors would help either prove or disprove the lanterns theory. Without this information we can only speculate at this point as to what the witnesses saw. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

  • 08/11/2009 - Belbroughton - Flying Triangle Sighting

    Birmingham UFO Group Case Report Author: Dave Hodrien Release Date: 12/11/2009 Occasionally at BUFOG we receive details of a sighting which fit in with many other previously reported incidents. Over the last couple of decades there have been many sightings of black triangular shaped craft with glowing lights on their underside, from many countries around the world. These craft are sometimes extremely large in size and have been seen to perform incredible manoeuvres and move at tremendous speed, as well as hover silently. There have even been sightings of these craft emerging from or entering the sea and moving around underwater. Some people theorise that they are some kind of secret military craft which has not yet been publically revealed. However many others, including myself, believe them to be of extraterrestrial origin as they appear to display very advanced characteristics far ahead of our current known technology. It also seems unlikely that if they were of military origin they would continue to be flown in plain sight of the public. On the evening of Sunday 8th November 2009, witness Ian was lucky enough to see something which may well have been one of these craft. Sighting Details It was 7.30pm and Ian was driving back home to Stourbridge with his two sons, after visiting his parents in Birmingham. He left the M5 motorway at Junction 4 and was driving along Sandy Lane (the A491), close to the village of Belbroughton. It was a cold and damp evening, and there had been a light drizzle which had now ceased. Due to the time of year the light had long since faded in the sky. There was partial cloud cover but Ian could make out faint stars in the distance. As he approached a mini roundabout which leads onto Stourbridge Road, he checked to the right for traffic, looking to the North North East. As he did so he noticed what appeared to be three bright white stationary lights in the sky. The lights appeared to be at quite low altitude, Ian estimates about 150-200 feet high. He believes they were about 200 yards from his position out over the fields which run alongside the road. Map showing location of witness and estimated position of object: 📷 He continued to drive around the roundabout onto Stourbridge Road. He then looked back at the lights. He could now see that the lights appeared to be at the corners of one large triangular-shaped object. He estimates it was at least the size of a Boeing 747. The object was no longer stationary and appeared to be banking towards him. As it did so he saw a pulsing deep red coloured light at its centre, equally spaced between the three white lights. Ian says this central light looked unsual, it appeared larger than the other lights and was permanently illuminated but constantly pulsing in brightness. Witness drawing of the UFO: 📷 Ian immediately assumed that the object was a flying craft of some kind, either an unusual/secret military craft or a cleverly made hoax. He was very interested in the object but continued to drive because of the time of night and the fact he had the two kids in the car, one of whom was only one and was asleep. He did not point out the object to his other son. He stared at the object for only a few seconds before continuing on his way home. Looking back, Ian wishes he had stopped and also could have tried taking a photograph on his mobile phone, but at the time this did not cross his mind. Sighting Analysis This is a very interesting incident and may well be a sighting of a Flying Triangle craft. Although it was dark, Ian could still make out a solid structure between the four lights so it was clearly one object rather than a number of separate objects. As it banked they all remained in the same position to one another, again indicating they were lights attached to one object. The light configuration – the white corner lights and larger red light at the centre – is common in Flying Triangle sightings. If the lights really were on the underside of the object, as they appeared to be, then due to Ian’s viewpoint the object must have tilted to a vertical/near vertical angle. This is again something I have heard described before. Red and white are of course the colours of commercial aircraft lights, however Ian is certain that this was not a normal aircraft of any kind. It appeared to be very low in the sky and also stationary but changing its angle, something which a normal aircraft would not be able to do. Obviously with conventional aircraft, the red light remains constantly bright, and there are two white strobing lights, one at each wingtip, which is quite different to what Ian witnessed, so both myself and him believe this can be ruled out as an explanation. The sighting occurred only a couple of days after bonfire night, but it seems very unlikely that what was seen could have just been a number of fireworks or flares, and this would not account for the dark triangular body of the object which could be made out. There were also no sounds coming from the object at all, and if there were fireworks being launched they would more than likely have been spotted by Ian before he reached the roundabout. The object appeared too large to be a balloon or inflatable of some kind, and besides this, why would a balloon/inflatable have white and red lights on its underside? If it was a prank it seems odd that it would be flown out over fields after dark on a cold wet evening, surely it would have been somewhere with a higher chance of someone spotting it? And again the size of the object seems too big for a model to be the explanation. Other explanations such as earth lights or meteorites do not fit in with what was experienced. There is the possibility that it was an undisclosed military craft of some kind, but if so it seems a very unusual place to be flying it, and there are no military bases anywhere in the area. After looking into the witness testimony and considering the various possibilities, I believe that there is certainly a chance that this was a genuine sighting of a Flying Triangle craft, and therefore possibly of extraterrestrial/extradimensional origin. Ian wonders if anyone else may have also seen it. If we receive any further reports from other witnesses this report will be updated. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

  • Billy Meier Hoax Research

    Original wording by Victor Gibbs Re-written for publication by Dave Hodrien Release Date: 21/11/2009 Billy Meier is one of the most famous individuals who has claimed to have made contact with extraterrestrials. He lives in Switzerland, and claims his first ET contact occurred in 1942 when he was just 5 years old and lasted for a number of years. He claims his “official” contact with a group of humanoid extraterrestrials from the Pleiades star system began in 1975. These beings communicated with him both face-to-face and telepathically, and on numerous occasions allowed him to take photographs and video footage of their ships. Meier subsequently released this evidence to the public as proof of his contact experiences. These videos and photos have been studied in depth and are highly controversial. There are many believers and many sceptics alike. In November 2009 Birmingham UFO Group was contacted by an elderly man named Victor Gibbs via E-Mail. Victor has done some optical research and believes he has discovered evidence that the Billy Meier UFO videos and photographs are hoaxed. Victor has been retired for some years now, but earlier in his life he worked in the gardening industry for 30 years. This included working in all aspects of the profession including maintenance, forestry, plantation, landscaping, farming and tree surgery. He believes that this qualifies him to give an expert opinion on the claims of Billy Meier that some of his photographic evidence shows large trees. Victor has looked at the Billy Meier photographs on the internet, and after his research and experience as a gardener, is in no doubt that Billy Meier used miniature trees in some of his photographs. Indeed the same miniature tree can be clearly observed in several of his UFO films and photographs reported to have been taken at different locations. Here is one of Meier’s most controversial UFO video clips, known as the Wedding Cake Beam Ship footage because of the unusual shape of the craft: Below are two stills from this video showing the craft and tree: Here are some of Meier’s other photographs which appear to show either a very similar or perhaps even the same tree as in the video: Below is a photograph of Victor standing next to a miniature tree which he believes is roughly the same size of the tree that Meier used several times in the video footage and a number of other photographs. He is actually confident that Meier’s tree was slightly smaller than this tree, and certainly no bigger than it. Meier claimed that the Wedding Cake Beam Ship video and other photographic stills contained fully sized trees. Victor strongly disagrees with this statement and believes that the trees seen are miniature in size or even models. At the start of the video footage, the visible tree looks tiny, almost a dot on the landscape. Victor claims that a real fully sized tree would appear much bigger and taller, even at a distance. When Meier zooms right in on the tree, it is clear that it has a very thin and small trunk. There are no visible thick branches either. The look and feel of the alleged large tree is completely wrong, and looks a lot more like a small shrub with the characteristics of a Christmas tree, or a miniature model tree intended to fool the naked eye. Victor believes that Meier zoomed in on the tree from a distance to make it look like it was fully sized, but in actual fact in doing so he has revealed that the tree is quite small. Note how the miniature tree looks to be the same size as Meier’s alleged tree. Both have the same characteristics and feel, and both appear to be a mere dot on the landscape. Victor then zooms in as far as the camera will allow (albeit he is only using a mobile phone camera for this footage, but it still proves the point). As you can see the size of the zoomed tree again is similar to that shown in the Meier video. Victor has showed this evidence to several well respected professional gardeners to get their opinion, and they all agreed that Meier’s tree must be miniature in size. One gardener who is also a keen photographer even thought that Meier’s tree was half the size of the miniature tree used in the experiment, and is actually a lot closer to the camera than it is set up to appear. With regards to the extraterrestrial craft shown in Billy Meier’s videos and photographs, Victor believes they are fundamentally flawed. Victor spent many years in the Royal Air Force, both flying and observing aircraft. He is also an avid photographer. He feels that Meier’s craft are too crisp, clear and in focus to be distant aerial objects, and that they are actually miniatures suspended close to the camera lens. There is no visible atmospheric haze or pressure around the objects or ground reflected light. The alleged UFOs have are very dark on their underside which Victor believes is a tell tale sign that they are very small and close to the camera. In the close up photographs, there are no shadows of the objects visible on the ground. They are, in Victor’s opinion, easily replicated hoaxes. Antony Wharton, one of Meier's biggest critics, has recreated some of the Meier photographs to show how easy it is to get very similar results. Below is one of Meier's photographs, reporting to show the "Wedding Cake" craft hovering over a van and in close proximity to the camera: Below are two photographs showing Wharton's model craft and a hoax photo he took which looks very similar to Meier's shot. In the hoax photo, Wharton held the model at the left hand edge which is why it disappears off the side. He believes that in the above Meier photo, he was holding a model from the top and hanging it down in front of the camera view: The below website link leads to a page where various Meier photographs have been deliberately recreated using nothing more than models and fishing line. This page does not prove that Meier faked his photographs, merely that it is possible to easily fake photographs of sufficient quality. This is why people should always be wary when examining photographic evidence on its own merits: http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/ufopix.html Here is another page which contains many clear images of hoaxed UFOs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thesecretsofthesaucers/show However, there are many people who believe that Billy Meier's claims are genuine, and have fully researched the various photographs and video footage released, and come up with evidence to suggest they are real. Below are two web pages where you can read a lot of arguments against the miniature tree and model UFO hypothesis. http://www.tjresearch.info/Wedcake.htm http://www.tjresearch.info/moretree.htm Below is a link to a UFO Data forum post where various people have discussed Victor's work: http://www.ufodata.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6298 To sum up, after examining Billy Meier’s video and photographic evidence and his own research, Victor believes that either the craft being captured on film were tiny in size and piloted by beings only a few inches high, or they were simply created using models and miniature trees. In looking at both of these explanations it is obvious which is the more probable. As with many UFO cases there is evidence both for and against, it is up to you to look at both sides of the coin and make your own mind up as to what you really believe. Copyright Dave Hodrien 2009

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